【野球】広島のCS敗退、ペナント独走優勝の価値考える機会にネットの反応は?

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1: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 12:57:46.85 ID:CAP_USER9
(24日、セCS最終ステージ DeNA9―3広島) セ・リーグで初めてレギュラーシーズン3位球団が日本シリーズに進出した。 0勝1敗からスタートするハンディや厳しい日程をはね返し、ルールにのっとり勝ち抜いた DeNA。セの代表として、堂々とソフトバンクと戦ってほしい。 ただ、今回の結果に「もやもや」を感じるファンは多いかもしれない。何しろ、ペナントを制した 広島とDeNAのゲーム差は14・5。広島ファンは「長い戦いの価値は何だったのか――」という 思いだろう。
 ポストシーズンゲームでよく比較されるのは大リーグだ。地区優勝3球団に加え、 ワイルドカードで2位以下の勝率上位2球団が争う。30球団ある大リーグの場合、 地区優勝球団よりワイルドカード球団の勝率が高いケースも多い。大差をつけられた球団の 「下克上」はまずありえない。 12球団の日本で大リーグ制度の導入は難しいが、ペナント覇者への敬意も必要だ。 だから優勝球団に1勝のアドバンテージがある。 関係者によると今季「2位に10ゲーム以上差をつけて優勝した場合、最終Sでさらに 1勝のアドバンテージを加える」という案が議論されたという。導入は見送られたが、 広島の敗退は独走優勝の価値を改めて考える機会になるかもしれない。(吉村良二) 朝日新聞社 https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20171025-00000010-asahi-spo ※前スレ http://hayabusa9.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1508898608/
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>>7 大して野球に興味がない俺でも制度が報道されたとき こういうケースが容易に想像できたから問題だと思っていたが? アドバンテージを大きくしCSに出られる勝利率差も小さくしないと 問題になると書き込んだ覚えがある
 
>>293 CSをやること=リーグ優勝したチームが日本シリーズできない可能性があること なんだから 「CSやるな」っていう論点ならわかるけど アドバンテージが云々は無意味なんだよw CSやめますに同意する球団なんて今更ないからな
 
9: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:02:17.30 ID:mbi0WVm80
優勝して兜の緒を絞めよ
 
18: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:04:48.92 ID:llkoTWqx0
ロッテの下剋上時は、アドバンテージは なかったしね
 
19: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:04:50.88 ID:4hRhcEEP0
なぜ負けたのか、だけ考えろよ 女々しいんだよ
 
26: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:05:33.33 ID:tyKTt4+e0
そこを勝ち抜くのが真の強さだろ 広島人だからカープ勝って欲しいけどさ
 
29: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:05:57.96 ID:Fhx81QAS0
ルールを考え直すのはいいけどさ~広島弱すぎなんだよ~ 日本シリーズに出場すべきチームではないな~
 
37: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:07:11.14 ID:iQTcVD8s0
広島が弱いだけ。 同じチームに4連敗するようなカスチームは日本シリーズなんか出れなくて当然。 そんなチームにペナント優勝の価値なんかあるわけねえだろ。
 
38: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:07:13.83 ID:0KmTv9yq0
下剋上があって何が悪いのか それはそれで整理すればいいのに
 
44: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:07:45.59 ID:bXuhkDpf0
アドバンテージ増えたとしても、負けたら結局アドバンテージおかわりするケロカス
 
46: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:08:04.53 ID:tly3Jbku0
第4コーナーまでぶっちぎりの独走でもね、最後の直線で差されちゃなんの意味もないんですよ リーグ優勝をゴール板だと勘違いしちゃったペース配分ミス
 
59: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:09:39.91 ID:j9+ep1Bp0
どこが優勝しようがしまいがそんなことはどうでもいい いち野球ファンとしてもっとすっきりしたポストシーズンを考えてもらいたい
 
60: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:09:42.26 ID:Lvpt5s2S0
興行的においしいから始めただけの方式だから合理性なんて全くないわな
 
72: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:11:04.29 ID:shJ5tvLI0
制度がおかしいのはみんな分かってる 2リーグでポストシーズンやるのなら現行制度がベター 1リーグ3地区制にするのが良いのだろうけどね
 
210: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:28:54.93 ID:8NoAz5+70
金が稼げる内はCSはなくならんって 嫌ならプロ野球なんて見るな
 
251: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:34:37.10 ID:m8JNHyeo0
独走は広島戦を他が泳がせてただけかもな 横浜は巨人戦にかけてただろうし
 
253: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:34:39.32 ID:StvNIEB70
日本シリーズはリーグ優勝チーム同士でやればいい。 興行収入が欲しけりゃ、CSの代わりに三位決定戦でいいじゃん。
 
265: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:36:20.62 ID:TNtqUiUh0
しかし 広島は 日本一 になれないな。。
 
272: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:37:07.66 ID:RZC9iwcY0
今年のプロ野球観客動員最多だっけ? CS効果すげえな、これを止めろとかキチガイかよ
 
280: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:38:19.86 ID:tly3Jbku0
ペナントの独走なんかさせとけ、こっちは戦力温存3位狙いのCS勝負じゃ 本当にこれが戦術でやってきたことだとしたら今の制度を最大限に活かした戦い方だが そしてペース考えずに負けた広島が甘いだけ
 
346: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:46:46.38 ID:sNfj/0fZ0
選手の成績は一年間通しとして 前半戦、交流戦、後半戦と3つに分けてさ 前半戦の1位、交流戦のリーグ1位、後半戦の1位 この1位でCSやりゃいい 三冠ならCSなし、2冠ならホームで1冠と試合とか
 
347: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:46:55.26 ID:LGj7D/yx0
ペナントレース優勝の記録はちゃんと残るんだからいいだろ。 マラソンでは強かった、じゃ短距離はどうかって話くらいに思えよ。  
 
361: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:49:00.74 ID:CZIrceET0
ソフトバンクvs横浜か 関東で視聴率取れるのかねぇ・・・
 
385: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:51:56.01 ID:nhMQVoly0
良くも悪くも異常気象がどう影響したか 例年とは異なるだけに、今年の結果だけを見てどうこう言うのは違うと思う
 
395: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:52:39.89 ID:3O7AOVik0
今さらなんだw 昔、王さんだって言ってたぞ その時はスルーしてたくせに 負けた時だけ騒ぐな
 
401: (^_-)-☆ 2017/10/25(水) 13:53:30.18 ID:apmBHsqW0
リーグ戦で話されすぎて1位には成るのは無理でも3位には入ろうと2位以下のチームが 最後まで真剣に戦うところが見られるのはメリットだけどね。 とりあえずはリーグ戦のゲーム差でアドバンテージの数を変えてみれば良いかなと思う、 そうすればリーグ戦で引き離して1位に成るメリットもあるだろうし。
 
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